Wild Wild West has a comp lunch available at the bar for a $20 buy-in. The chicken fingers are the best of the offerings. Even the employees comment on how good they are. A great deal since they are free with the buy-in.

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

John,

The buy-in isn't enough. You have to play the $$ through....and those machines are all short pay. According to many sources I've seen, they watch you very carefully to make sure it is played through.

In any case, isn't life too short to go to a dump like that? I have yet to figure out why LVA is so high on this. Since you seem to like the deal maybe you can explain?



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Bill in Santa Monica, CA

Bill,
On a recent trip I stoped in to WWW, and while I didn't sample the chicken fingers, we all had a good time. The cocktail waitresses looked a lot better then the VV ones! [img]http://www.talkvegas.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Not that I notice those sorts of things!

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Lee-PA
Moderator, What's New Forum
lee@talkvegas.com

Bill, when you say the machines are short pay, what do you mean? If they are 8/5 jacks, then that is typical bartop vp in Las Vegas. If they are 7/5 or worse, then you are right that they are poor.
My thinking was this. If I am hungry and want a beer, and have time on my hands, why not sit down at an 8/5 vp machine and get the beer and chicken fingers. If I buy a roll of quarters, I always run them through unless I would hit a royal. Then I would cash out and pay for the meal<G>

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

John,

By "short pay" I mean their pay schedules are less than the "full pay" schedules easily found around town. For instance, 8/5 Jacks is about 2% below 9/6 Jacks and 1.5% below 8/5 Bonus (available in dozens of casinos). Point being, anyone who plays there is paying for their comp. As I said, I can't fathom why a supposedly gambling-savvy publiction like the LVA would promote a deal that is bad for gamblers. I read their opinion of it in the last issue and was so disgusted by it that I almost cancelled my subscription then and there. With so many great comp deals available (using full pay machines) I think the LVA should be ashamed of itself.




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Bill in Santa Monica, CA

Bill, I think the LVA has been on a very long downhill slide for several years. I have my own opinion of how they come up with their ratings, but I can't prove it. With the amount of data available on the internet these days about Las Vegas, I don't see how a monthly newsletter with old data and writers with inside motives can survive.

Joe & Bill,
I didn't play poker at the bar. I looked around the place and said to myself....would I really want to eat here? The answer is NO. While it was a fun time, even if it was a great deal, we still would have passed on it.
LVA, I still enjoy the read, even if some of it is fiction. That top 10 has gotten rediculious! IMHO

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Lee-PA
Moderator, What's New Forum
lee@talkvegas.com

Bill, maybe they just like the chicken fingers<G>

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

I agree with all of you that the LVA is on a downward spiral and has been for awhile. The August issue is my last one, since I'm tired of paying for bad advice and old news. Talk Vegas provides much more information that is accurate and up to date. By the time an LVA issue rolls around, on TV we are long onto other news and other subjects.

Somewhere I read that the LVA will be putting their monthly issues on their Web site. *If* that is true then get ready for a lot of advertising of their new online gambling site. That's where they will make their money--Internet Gambling--and end up giving away the LVA information for free.

Yeah, Veronica, but now even the time in
Las Vegas is lagging. The clock on the
web page is now 4 minutes behind my computer
clock. Could you reset it please? [img]http://www.talkvegas.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Dick

V, I never received my vp strategy cards from LVA. They were suppose to be mailed June 1, then July 1. I should e-mail them again.

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

Dick: If I could I would!

Maybe the Keeper Of The Talk Vegas Clock will read this and correct the time. [img]http://www.talkvegas.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

John: I forgot about those cards. Maybe a phone call would be more effective instead of email. I think I emailed them once with a question and never heard from 'em, so I called and got the answer tout suite.

I'm 6 minutes off of the talkvegas clock. The clockmaster must be sleeping<G>

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

John,

We got our VP cards about a month ago....definitely call them. This is way too long to wait.


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Bill in Santa Monica, CA

Bill, thanks for the info. I e-mailed them last night. But after your post a phone call is definely in order.
BTW, what did you think of the cards?

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John
Moderator-Dining Forum

I like the cards, John. They do four levels of complexity (I've mostly been using level 2) so as you get better you can go to more precise strategies and enhance your odds a bit. Levels 3 and 4 are tough since they use lots of abbreviations and deal with obscure things like penalty cards. Still, they're definitely worth the money IMO.


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Bill in Santa Monica, CA